You can S8 your tenant, but may get a counterclaim, there are ways to reach a settlement which may include them leaving but if the Council owes them a duty of housing they may not be able to leave. They will also charge the Landlord for your costs if they find against him and it is pretty hard not to find against him when he has not protected the complete deposit. What are the my legal rights as I do not have a signed contract. Even if you are usually super careful about protecting the tenancy deposit, there is always going to be just that once when you slip up. An SPT is also a separate tenancy if the original tenancy was after Oct 2015 and not protected. Luckily you can possibly hold the Agent liable, however, if they are one of these dodgy agents you will have to work for it. If your landlord does not protect your deposit with one of the three tenancy protection schemes within 30 days of receiving the deposit they are liable to a penalty of between 1-3 times the amount of deposit paid for each breach. This blog page has been going a long time, the law has changed as many times plus they is a heap of legislation. I seriously doubt you will get this claim to work and so if you are determined to proceed I suggest you use one of the claim companies, they will determine all the permissions required and evidence or they may tell you to take a run and jump. Dear David, I hope you are well. But I would have to tell her i'm doing this and she would wonder why. This does depend on them being contractually liable, I would download copies of all their terms in case you do not have them to hand. Should the local council fine the landlord for bypassing the tenancy deposit schemes? If it’s of any consolation (which it probably won’t be), the law was specifically changed in the Housing Act 2004 to allow tenants to sue the agent as well as the landlord for the penalty for non compliance of protecting the tenancy deposit. I would be asking what legal expertise do you have and would you indemnify me against and counter claims. Very annoying when you have kindly taken an interest. The deposit was bonded within 7 days, but the pi was not given until after 30 days, so from what I have read there was a breach - stupid me. Thank you for running your website, it's really interesting. I have problems with my tenant who is in rent arrears and I want to evict her. Find out about our professional deposit protection services for landlords, letting agents, businesses and tenants in the private rental sector. If you agent was contracted to meet your legal requirements with regard to deposit protection, then they can be held responsible for your consequential loss if it was caused by their negligence. I feel I am being reasonable. If they left damages and you have good evidence of that from two proper inventories then you have a counterclaim. Common scenario. http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2014/4729.html. The actions you take will depend on the employment status of the tenant and which benefits they are claiming. As long as there was no intimidation that would be fine. Strike.co.uk Review - Sell Your House for Absolutely FREE! See post 757 for how to contact me, be quick because the dreaded lurgi has me. A Deposit Dispute will be referred to Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR) if a Deposit Dispute has been raised and you confirm they agree that the Deposit Dispute should be resolved by ADR. In these times we cannot ignore WHY the tenant is in arrears, has it been affected by the Pandemic we are now in, can they provide evidence of same, e.g. Although there is only 1 set of sanctions per tenancy, there are different breaches, so a Landlord who protects late but does not serve the PI has just a serious breach. Is this something we should bring up to help reclaim our deposit? Before putting the deposit into a scheme you need to make sure it needs to be, chances are the SPT does require it, absolute madness to renew every six months like that, I had a case where a tenant was entitled to £30k and that was being conservative. You may be in a better place than you think, it is all going to depend on the dates of the tenancies, there has been a plethora of case law, amendments and amnesties. David If they are on Universal Credit you need to make the request from the DWP via local Job Centre Plus offices. To be in compliant with the Section 213 Housing Act 2004, any money taken from a tenant as a security deposit must be protected in a Government approved scheme with in 30 days of receiving it. Make sure your deposit is NOT more than 5 weeks rent as it would be a breach of Tenant Fees Act, also make sure you are licensed if it is a requirement of the property. For more information, please read my full disclaimer. Issuing a S21 notice as well is a cheap way to double down (it is just a notice). If you get a claim letter please see post 757 for how to contact me. Right now you are blaming a tenant you are already pissed about because YOU made a mistake. mydeposits is a leading tenancy deposit protection scheme provider, authorised by the UK Government. Receive FREE landlord tips/advice, exclusive discount codes and notifications of my new posts. All she has to do is log into the tenant portal of the deposit protection scheme used, check the date it was protected and inform the Court. As you forgot the deposit I will remind you to also give the tenant the Energy Performance Certificate, Gas Inspection Certificate, Electrical Installation Condition Report (see right) and how to rent. Assuming you have a solid case that can't be disputed the Landlord will be paying the Court fee anyway so it is up to you. Multiple flat inspections have been more than satisfactory in addition to the end of tenancy inspection by the independent assessor provided by the letting agency. I am a landlord and my tenant has left and I was not given the deposit but now the tenant has sent me a letter before action to pay them the money and more compensation. You honestly can't just hope the tenant does not become aware of her rights or that the Court will make a mistake. Representing yourself is fine, but you may be up against a solid Barrister who ties you in knots. Your landlord has to protect your deposit by … A few further questions: 1. DEPENDING ON AREA I ANTICIPATE GETTING THE MATTER BEFORE A JUDGE MAY TAKE A YEAR AS THERE WAS A BACKLOG ON THE DAY OF THE LOCK DOWN AND A FURTHER SEVEN MONTHS OF CLAIMS BY THEN AND COURTS ARE NOT YET FULLY OPEN. Landlord Law Blog is © 2006 – 2020 Tessa Shepperson. The problem is that many many landlords think of the deposit as a redecorating fund. NB. If no deposit was taken then there is nothing to protect. My Landlord didn’t protect my deposit within 30 days If your landlord has not protected your deposit within 30 days, you can take legal action against them, including claiming back up to 3X the original deposit amount as compensation. Do you have any experiences to share regarding this matter, whether you’re a landlord or a tenant? I complied as I did not want tenants to manipulate the situation and take me to tribunal. If the tenant remained after the term then a contract is created in law, it is called a Statutory Periodic Tenancy. If you were resident is say a two bed flat and let out one room as a lodger then the deposit protection legislation would not apply. More about what to do in this scenario below. If the Agent was providing the Landlord with a Full Service that included legal obligations then the Landlord will will have a potential action for negligence against the agent for the loss they have suffered, so with the right approach you can often get them "on side". Do I submit a court application? Its also great to use a refresher training for staff members. Alternatively, you can just jump over to my tenant deposit guide for tenants. If the deposit was not protected within 30 days of the second tenancy starting then it is liable for penalty as well. Also are you able to let me know if making a claim now will affect whether the landlord could later serve a S21 on me please. Sorry I can't offer more hope or better prospects. 4. I have sent papers to court hoping that as the deposit got protected eventually it may still go through. However, there’s more information available in the “ways you can legally end a tenancy agreement. The 1x to 3x can be a crap shoot, there is culpability, for example if they had an agent and the agent contract clearly specified that the agent took responsibility for the protection of the deposit and all the legal obligations (e.g.PI) . Do nothing, but sit tight and pray that your tenants don’t realise protecting the deposit and serving the Prescribed Information is a legal requirement and/or they don’t care enough to seek compensation because you’ve been an amazing landlord. The purpose of this blog is to provide information, comment and discussion. I honestly doubt that there will be new eviction proceedings before December and actual evictions before February. How do I secure the deposit myself I can help you with these but providing more detail on a live case is not advisable on an open forum. Paying it back will not release it from the scheme without her permission. For landlords that are familiar with the legislation but have failed to protect your tenant(s) deposit for one reason or another, you’re in the right place. By then they will be allowed to only evict tenants on serious arrears or Antisocial behaviour. I did not protect the tenant’s deposit, can I still serve a section 21 notice No, if the deposit was not protected, then you will not be able to serve a section 21 notice. We avoided court for 9x the deposit which is what we would have got if we had gone to Court but they would have paid legal and Court fees too. Do not give any favours on damage or arrears, these are things that can be leveraged in a claim. My deposit was never protected with any of the schemes.they made me fix things in the house and pay for them and they just provided the handymen. Being great mates is one thing, being party to a case is another thing. From what you say you have a sanction of 1.5x the deposit, the minimum you could get is 1x the deposit per tenancy. I can write you a series of emails that you can send to your tenant without dropping yourself in it. I have read that one approach would be to refund the deposit to the tenant and then serve a s21. This is a typical case where the landlord has just one property, from when he moved in with his girlfriend, and hasn’t a clue about the landlord legal requirements. How could we then put it into a scheme? I called DPS, informed them that money transfer failed in past. If they cannot answer YES to both questions they will be told to contest the Section 21 in court. By clicking the consent button, you agree to allow the site to use, collect and/or store cookies. Please also note that any opinion expressed by a guest blogger is his or hers alone, and does not necessarily reflect the views of Tessa Shepperson, or the other writers on this blog. As background, I've been renting for two years and living in a property in a terrible state of disrepair - the day we moved in the boiler was condemned and there was a gas leak. I am so angry with the agents as they cocked up. It would be possible to create one claim with all parties, to save on Court fee, the particulars of claim would need to be well defined. The letter will seek a settlement but very firmly inform the Landlord that you will be taking legal action if the deposit is not returned in full within 7 days. Unfortunately, you’re in the exact same position as if you have no association with a letting agent. Many landlords do not realise the consequences of failing to place money taken by a tenant as a security deposit into a Government Approved Scheme. A failure to protect or serve the PI brings a penalty of between 1x and 3x the full deposit. that the fixed period has come to an end (or your address for serving notice has changed); on that newly signed contract you would then be able to protect it within 30 days? Does any extra information need to be provided to the landlord / court relating to this, other than stating that I am bringing the claim on behalf of all of the previous tenants? There have been so many changes to Deposit Protection Legislation, since it was foist upon us in the Housing Act 2004, it’s not surprising that so many landlords get it wrong– but unfortunately ignorance is no defence in law. As this has already got to a firm there is no point seeking a reasonable correspondence as they will drag things out to get fees for the letters they write. As I live in the same property as my tenants ( I’m in flat a, there in flat b but in the same building let’s say number 1) the letting agents have created a contractual tenancy agreement which says I as the landlord hold the tenants deposit is that correct? 3. On this basis, would it be better to submit the claims for each contract separately? How much you face in sanctions will depend on how many tenancy agreements there were and the gravity of your failure. I explained above that you might be on thin ice regarding limitations. I was also informed that the agent will secure my deposit but unfortunately I did not receive any evidence of this. No matter what the reason: If you want to evict your tenant, the only thing you can do is refund the tenancy deposit money (nothing will protect you against a claim for the penalty). I've been reading all your responses and i'm gathering that I would be better off keeping this existing contract on a rolling basis after the fixed term expires 6th Nov and put the deposit in a protection scheme asap. In these circumstances would you consider that I am still able to successfully issue S21 proceedings on the basis that the tenant cannot counterclaim for deposit breaches in light of expiry of the limitation period? Given that her rent is only £370 I imagine the deposit was a fairly small amount back then, but given we may have to evict her I am trying to prepare for what might happen. In fact they have introduced a whole load of new hurdles and requirements. I am trying again to reach you, following the 703 instructions, but thank you already for these very useful clarifications. To address the growing problem of deposit abuse, the government introduced tenancy deposit protection. 0. All of the deposit and the rent came out of my account, with the other tenants transferring me the money rather than transferring it directly to the landlord. Many Landlords are struggling, having to service BTL mortgages that make very little money, barely enough to cover annual maintenance. I go into quite a lot of detail about the prescribed information and what exactly it should consist of. At the same time there has been guidance not to move home unless the property being moved into is empty, I would imagine most prospective tenant would want it deep cleaned, but there is another issue, viewings. I have also started to look at LHA rates too but wasn't sure, but now you have mentioned it I will definitely pursue. Landlords had until the 23rd June 2015 to protect deposits! If the deposit was £1000 the maximum sanction would be £6000 for two tenancies, you have no guarantee that the Court will award that. Your Landlord. As an alternative, am I able to agree in writing with the tenant that their deposit may be refunded directly to their rent account. Additionally, whilst reviewing my deposit as considering going to the tenancy dispute service, I found out only a proportion of my 950 pound deposit (around 2/3) was held in the TDS. Then once it goes to Court if they ignore that they will likely get the maximum sanctions, once that County Court Judgement is achieved it can be enforced against the very property you rented with an application for a charge. Surely the best idea is to simply negotiate a new contract with the tenant, for whatever real (or made up) reason – i.e. Do not put too much personal information here on this open blog. 1) You say elsewhere that you're considered to have made TWO infractions, if you've renewed the AST, and been slow to re-register both times. Any information I share is my unqualified opinion, and should never be construed as professional legal or financial advice. He can complete the Notices and other documents but you must sign them. So…don’t let it happen to you…know what the law is and what to do to properly protect a tenant’s deposit (and protect yourself) and then you know either what to do yourself (if you self manage your properties/tenants) or what your agent should be doing…then you can keep an eye on the agent so things don’t go wrong. Honestly cannot believe I made this mistake. 4. You can also What to do at this stage will depend on the individual circumstances, so there isn’t a simple solution for all. It is also done to encourage there to be enough cases to remain a deterrent. At Shelter’s website, you’ll find links you can follow to check if your deposit is protected with them. 2. Where a deposit has not been protected within the prescribed time, landlords must return the deposit to the tenant or face being prevented from recovering possession of the property. 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