If governor works properly engine cant 9600 rpm. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. SITUATION CDA904 No message Status of trailer, 0X2e4 DME receiver AHM transmitter. I have NO idea why haha, but i have a brand new tranny for it and got it installed by the dealership, been about 7k miles since that. Timing is performed by the timing chain. Is there a or way trick to clear the code without seeing a mechanic or using a code reader?ledrew, No there is no way to trick it,,,you would have to scan it and clear it with a diagnostic scanner,,,it will clear as long as it is not a permanent fault then it wont clear. The engine was low water damaged. Reset codes and adaptations without increment wheel. I called the mechanic he said it was a fault related to the emissions. procedure outlined below. The car has 103,000 miles. The oil and filter have always been genuine BMW. I guess I can continue to enjoy the car and see what happens or sell it. bimmerfest.com is not in any way affiliated with Bayerische Motoren Werke AG. In US the N20/N26 timing chain extended limited warranty is 7 years/70000 miles, so what is extended coverage available in your country? Im sorry,,,and I hate how BMW has handled the whole problem with the N20-N26 engine and timing chain issue,,,I understand your frustration with BMW and how they didnt take care of this known problem. Thank You very much for your help. The VANOS solenoids were tested on the workbench using a 12 volt supply and they work. Everything works, radio, windows, Locks. Yes I have seen some engines survive,,,,it just hard to say what damage was done to the engine and how bad it is,,,,and is it worth fixing. The I-level is newer than the I-level specified in SI B12 15 13. F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34 Together with my BMW dealership service history and my own service records there was no issues and the repair was completed within a few days. Since the picture was taken by me not by the dealer. I took it to the bmw for a diagnostic and they said that Im just better off replacing the engine than trying to find out what is wrong with the car. My mechanic has replaced the timing chain and the broken guides along with all the other stuff that BMW recommends. Thanks again. Ive got a 2014 320i with 36,000 miles. 3: 130304 VANOS (Variable camshaft timing) exhaust: control fault, camshaft stuck My car have no error code, product 4/2012 with no tune. Hi bmwtechnician, December 2013 So I stopped at the nearest possible place and connected my reader to the car. The boost control fault is caused by the vanos fault,,,you need to check into the the vanos faults to see whats going on. The engine sounds exactly the same as the first time it started after the timing chain installation. Hi, I have a 2014 BMW 428i X drive coupe. are the codes it wont start i have a timing chain set on the way have you seen any of these engine survive after This situation can occur as a customer complaint, or after performing The short version of this story is that the car is working now. still the same problem. So now I have one BMW expert telling me its loose and should be taken care of by the dealership, and the dealership is telling me everything is good to go, no problems. Please help! Picture of my timing chain guide rail cracking: https://imgur.com/4P3ATsK. Reply Quote. Thats a good possibility thats the timing chain issue. Im getting error codes 120408 Charging Pressure Control: Switched off. F010-13-07-506 for the F10 designates changes to this revision My daughters car had the timing chain issue N20. It is possible without the timing tools, but if you risk needing to re-time the engine if something moves. Sorry for the confusion, I understand you have the N20 engine,,,,what Im saying on the N20 engine the vans unit failing is not a common problem like the N51,,,,,on the N20 engine there are no replacement bolts for the vanos unit not like the N51. i am getting the following error codes on my 2013 BMW X3 (107k miles): Ask an Expert Car Questions BMW Questions 3,220 Satisfied Customers Roger is online now Related BMW Questions Have an issue after replacing valve cover gasket the car has N20 and N26 Engine: Various VANOS System Faults Stored in DME MODEL E84 E89 F10 F25 F30 F31 F34 . And yes the crank wouldnt rotate after being inserted. Cheers. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. 112,000 km / 7 years. Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description: to model implausibly too high . Your email address will not be published. Also that didnt make a difference and fault is still on outlet side. The update can only be done at the dealer,,,you will only need a update if there is some kind of BMW recall on software or if at anytime your car might need some other repair which might call for a update for the repairs.,,,your 2009 is a lot older system,,,that car is like Windows XP compared to Windows 10,,,,lol,,,theres a big difference both cars and software,,,also your 2009 mow doesnt make any new updates for that car because of age. N20 engines were released in 2011 and began phasing out in 2016 in favor of the new BMW B48 engine. It should show something like incorrect angle/position. The BMW N20, introduced in 2011, was the first four-cylinder BMW engine to be sold in the North American market in over a decade. But, it will need to be adjusted and tested properly using genuine BMW software. reference point is the same? These are all pretty standard specs for most modern BMW engines. Is there possible timing not to be correct on the intake vanos unit?! unfortunately info on this N20 is almost none exist at best. The timing chain & guides are bathed in engine oil, not fuel. I can of course record my engine startup if thatll let you know the case). Fingers crossed!! The oil filter element appears to collapsed / sucked in at the center. He said the technician found this out by putting a scope in the engine but didnt explain it any further, nor did he address what the diagnostic code was for the sensor being on. 1; 120408 Charging pressure control: switch-off as consequence Hello did you ever resolve that issue? F30 / F31 / F32 / F33 / F34 / F36 (2012 - current). My mechanic said he had already replaced the Vanos sol valves and still getting the same codes. It goes from 0 8 kpa and back to 0 will cranking do you have any idea what that reading should be on the fuel rail. The extended warranty runs out in December. It revs fine but with the turbo disabled a drive around the block is at a pedestrian pace. Hello BMW Technician, I have a 2011 BMW 535i with N55 engine. F31 He believes that its not enough oil pressure in the tensioner therefore is not tight as it should be. https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014 Brought it to a second mechanic. But when I try to test VANOS data via ISTA it gives no data, only 0. Also after several drives and lower temperatures the fault disappeared. So far I reset it and it's gone and drove it like 30 miles but kinda worried . Thank you!! I used my scope when inserting the crank pin holder and i assumed the hole in the flywheel closest to cams at tdc was the locking point, Is this correct? (not including CAS) I've tested the soleniods and they are both good. Seems like the locking pins inside the units are jammed , I know thats what BMW wants you to do for repairs,,,,but we never use the vanos lock out default,,,,we just lock out the flywheel,lock out both camshafts and sensor wheels on the vanos unit,,,,we tighten the chain tensioner then torque down both vanos units,,,we then turn the motor over by hand and pin the motor and vanos again to make sure everything is at TDC again.,,,I hope this helps. Reduced power" warning, 745i 2002 - Engine Malfunction - reduced power, If this is your first visit, be sure to
Thanks. F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34: Nic. Whether the engine is cold or warm, the VANOS faults appear within 15 seconds of startup. But one of the passages might have had some trash in it. Thoughts?? Please advice me how can I go about with the local dealer? 131501 vanos inlet cold start not controllable and 120408 boost pressure control cut off pressure rise blocked 2011 x3. It currently has 165,000 km without any chain problems. They also got me up to speed on the known timing chain issues, extended 7yr/70,000 mile extended warranty and class action lawsuit stuff. The intake cam had the following desired/actual degrees: 0/-8, -20/-20, -10.4/-10, -20/-20 and -10.4/-10. 96K views 5 years ago The BMW N54 and N52 typically have the most issues with this. https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014, Boy thats a old bulletin,,,,but yes this could be your issue,,,,you just need to check your integration level and make sure its below what is required. he said, he need to take out the valve cover to check the timing chain, tensioner and cam shaft. she said light came on oil pressure error stop immidiatly Hi, I have N20 with rough idle. Coasting to a stop the engine suddenly died and would not restart. This is not a recall. The improved DME software was introduced Your really helpful : So how do I know when its time for a update. Its hard to say what the problem is with out hearing and driving the car,,,,I dont think the noise is timing chain because that makes a whining noise,,,the only leak could be a exhaust leak but you said the steering also shakes,,,have you had the tires and rims checked make sure rims are not bent,,,also check the rear transmission mount make sure they are not cracked or broken,,,also check the drive belt tensioner could be a problem. Hello BMW technician, I know there is a lawsuit going on with N20 timing chain in NJ District Court I dont think they will take your picture as evidence,,,,but you could give it a try it wouldnt hurt, Hello- Thats important to know for later. BMW replaced the motor and shipped it to us in AZ from Virginia. How does this help the car in what way? New battery installed. 61 00 710 Refer to KSD2 Programming / encoding control unit(s) everything in the vehicle works extremely well. Hi,,,yes your car is not on the list but that doesnt mean that it still has this problem,,,and since your car is 4 wheel drive the chain is not being used more it is the same on both 4 wheel drive and rear wheel drive,,,,now if you want to keep the vehicle it is a good idea to replace the timing chain and rails and oil pump chain for safety reasons. Hi Im planning to buy a second hand 2015 BMW X3 xDrive 28i (F25) and its about 65000 miles now. I would love to listen to your video,,,please send it. Do you think it has to do something with the timing belt. within the BMW Certified Pre-Owned Limited Warranty and this coverage extends beyond the and cam shaft are not in alignment any more. Seems like the locking pins are stuck. If BMWNA does not fix this N20/N26 TC issue, a chunk of remaining faithfuls will deflect to other brands. Yes go to the dealership and tell them about the issue and the bulletin. Hello, Thanks from Sweden,,,,I never noticed that,,,,I would think the f31 RW would also be affected,,,,nobody understands this list from BMW there are a lot of car that are not listed with the same engines,,,BMW never told us why only these vehicles are listed on the bulletin. Is this true? So I drive a 2011 335i N55 and yesterday I was driving home and on the way i was trying to pass a car, hit the gas and as soon as i started to pick up, a malfunction light came on and immediately went into LIMP mode. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. If so, can I buy the warranty for the used car now? It definitely isnt a prominent/dangerous rattling sound like in the video Jack posted on Aug 30. The boost disable fault was cleared and the engine restarted. Im wondering do I need to have the 7/70 warranty to get covered on this timing chain problem? The BMW Certified Pre-Owned Limited Warranty applies to BMW CPO vehicles that are still Also can sparkplugs have any influence to this situation? We rebuilt it. Im in california and Im planning to buy a used 2015 BMW X3 xDrive 28i (F25). The oil was black though. Tried to read live camshaft sensors read ista says that currenty no data is sent from them to DME. Next day car returned to BMW with propulsion light . The car has lost complete power and now I the drive train malfunction light on, engine light on, low oil pressure light on. Could you please guide me? only be fixed if it seems like my car will experience the issue (like if they hear the rattling noise that commenters have mentioned/you replied about. Hello there. If one of the applicable faults listed above is stored in the DME then continue with the Ive been told by dealership that timing chain is tight and has passed their test. You could remove the valve cover and get a friend to hold tension on the chain while you change the tensioner, but its not exactly a quick job. Here is a video of whats happening today. So for the E89 Z4 only the 28i N20 powered model is affected and not the 20i sDrive? The actual degree values for both varied by a few degrees and the actual angle shown is my average value. Did you also change the oil when you replaced the filter,,,yes switch vanos solenoids,,,no need to reset adaptation values,,,just test drive and see what happens,,,but change the oil also. no hesitation. Im wondering if I can just replace those bolts with new steel ones , my car is out of warranty and it has not develop any issues yet , but as precautionary measure I was wondering if this is possible? Looks all good. My car, BMW 320i 2014 with N20 Engine, with 33K Miles on the clock, is just broke down with a drive train error. Reprogram the vehicle ISTA/P 2.50.4 or higher. I am not sure if it was the wrong filter. The fault returns when its hot outside and comes back even faster when I turn on the air conditioning. I am also concerned , like every other n20 owner, that it will grenade eventually. 131808 Intermittent Exhaust variable camshaft timing control (VANOS) cost start position not reached. Im thinking the dealership is just not interested in fixing it. Suddenly the half yellow engine light came on and was telling me that reduced engine power bla bla. Hello! There can typically be a ton of different. As there is a known TSB and the solenoid is VVT. There are locking pins integrated inside the units. What is your opinion about the above? The engine is running rough at idle. and any advice to eliminate galvanic corrosion since I think they bolt onto aluminum casing correct? 2008 BMW 128I [0.00] Check engine light DTC 131501. Ok heres another vanos unit off a 2011 328 N51 engine,,,,this is the intake vanos unit that is now in several pieces,,,,the customer was just driving on the highway when the engine just lost power. 2013 BMW X1 E84 WITH N2O MOTOR 11400ML Page 4 of 4 Hey guys, I have a 2014 m235i and at work today I started my car and I got this code. Come join the discussion about Bimmerfest events, production numbers, programming, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Yes that crack in the timing chain guide should be enough to replace the timing chain and guide rails,,,,the way we decide if the car is covered is by whine noise,rattle noise,broken pieces of timing chain guide,,,how before we get the extended warranty that is hard to say,,,it all depends on the legal side of the lawsuit Im sorry to say. Hi, Is this related to the new engine I got? Usually the Vanos units lock in its default position when engine is turned off. Warranty. What me be causing this? Thanks, The charge pressure fault is probably due to the the vanos fault,,,,it looks like you replaced all the general stuff already and you are sure the timing is correct,,,,,you said the engine had low water damage what does that mean,,,is it possible the exhaust camshaft is binding,,,,you might want to check the exhaust camshaft journal caps. Problem is, mine arent locked. I did not receive this bulletin to my knowledge, maybe because I am the 2nd owner of the car as of February 2019(?). check out the. hello i have a 2013 bmw x3 from a family friend with n20 Seem N20 engine dont like hight gear with low rpm, and seem like bmw set economy to lug the engine like that. When the VANOS solenoids were removed for testing I checked the marks I made on the VANOS impulse wheels and on the harmonic balancer and they looked perfect. The production date of the car was 2015-11-17. P0115; BMW 10AA40 Coolant-temperature sensor, electrical: no signal P112A; BMW 10AA50 Coolant-temperature sensor, plausibility: engine temperature in rel. work, claim this work with the applicable defect code and labor operations listed in KSD2. The only odd result is that the desired angles of 0 and 0.6 had actual angles that were off by ~8 degrees. I assume it will need to be replaced just because its higher in milage but do you think BMW would warranty it out knowing that theyve said it was lifetime of the vehicle? I know I might be looking at replacing Vanos Actuator, central valve or the whole vanos unit. I have a 2013 N20 engine in my X3 and want to remove the actuators to either clean or replace. Also after cold start also misfire error pops up. Hello there, loving your info. Ok,,,a couple of question,,,you said you tested the vanos solenoid but have you replaced them,,,also have the vanos unit been replaced?,,,,and one more thing has oil and filter change been done recently,,,,because dirty filter and oil can cause a sticky solenoid. You only touched an accessories belt part. I have a 2015 x1 with an April 2015 manufacture date. The VANOS cold start faults would reappear within 15 seconds of startup. How do you check the oil pressure? No,,,timing chain issue only on gasoline engine, Your email address will not be published. They look ok. Do you think it can be a ECU or software related issue? The exhaust cam had the following desired/actual degrees: 0.6/-9, 20/17, 11/9, 20/17. Note: When the ISTA system message displays: Battery voltage only XX.XX V. Please connect Hey, F10 You should ask the dealer about it. The 7 years/70000 miles extended limited warranty follows the VIN, so if the 2015 X3 is on the list, the N20/N26 engine will be covered. When engine starts cam shaft on exhaust goes all the way to the end. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I called BMW and they said no recalls on the car and told me to take it to a BWM Official garage. Any suggestions on what to check on the Vanos for the 131501 code? I say bad engineering or a BMW scam? or Robert, is your location in Canada, given km instead of miles are used in your post? and as necessary DME. now I have a question for you and hoping to get a direction. Work time (WT) labor operation 61 00 006 requires an individual punch time. Thanks for your time. E89X-13 -11-505 for the E84 and E89 My service guy called and told me to sell the car immediately because oil wasnt circulating through the engine and eventually it would seize. I have changed timing chain on 2013 BMW 328i xdrive this is the codes Im getting 131501 120408 131908 . It idles fine and sounds much better than before. Its a possibility that the motor could be saved,,,,but it would take a lot of money and time,,,there has been some people of done their own DIY and fixed the engine depending on what is damaged,,,if it is just the timing chain,rails , oil pump and hopefully the bearing arent bad and no damage to the pistons and valves the repairs might not be that bad,,,,you have to realize you have 176k miles which is a lot.,,,and what about the transmission is that next to fail? Ive enjoyed your blog and I hope you will start posting again. My engine is N52 Sorry I dont see any video,,,,ok when you say the starter and engine dont appear to make attempt to start,,,,,question does the engine turn over when you are trying to start the car,,,,,question does the engine make any sound when trying to start the car,,,if the engine does not turn over when trying to start car,,,,try and turn the engine by hand from the front lower crankshaft bolt and see if the engine will turn.
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