The Super Saiyan transformation that Vegeta mentioned looked pretty different as it was a Great Ape with golden hair. 9 The S-Cells And Their Use. Thus it would be quite difficult for Vegeta to achieve SSJ3, even if he had more than enough power. 2:16. Sadly, Vegeta was unable to replicate it, and in the Dragon Ball Super Series, the prince of Saiyans was seen moving from stage 2 to Super Saiyan God and then Blue without passing by the third stage. He deals out alright damage in the 1st and 3rd fight due to type advantage. Vegeta needs to have a pre-determined amount of ki to transform. But if you think about it, he did think back when Goku went ssj3 and was fighting Buu; said that Goku was indeed stronger, and that he wondered how he became so strong. Throughout dragonball Z Vegeta has always pushed himself to the limits trying to best Goku resulting in him becoming a super saiyan 1 and 2. So what is the problem with his SSJ3 form then? Saying "Base Form Vegito is stronger than SSJ1 Frieza Saga Goku" is an absolutley idiotic comparision. In any case, it's entirely possible that Vegeta reached Super Saiyan 3 between the end of Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT. SSJ has better balance of power, speed, strength and stamina. That's just what I think, I could be totally wrong. Vegeta did probably not acheive this form because had no body when dead. The reason why Vegeta did not attain the SSj 3 form means just 1 thing, he did not train enough after the Kid Buu saga, he now knew that he was inferior to Goku in terms of battle skill, and that makes sense.. if he had trained the way he did before (after the cell games or even after Frieza saga) he could have become a SSj 3 no doubt, maybe if Goku teleported him to the other world, vegeta could have attained it easily as he was perfect with ssj 2 form. Playing next. Vegeta will definitely go Super saiyan 3 in DBZ 2013 movie and Millions of DBZ favs will cum there pants, my prediction there gunna give his a cool new look like a red hue or glow along with the golden aurora an hair!! could goku even had accended without dying????? Come On Guys Lets Think Vegeta SS1 Pure Heart To Evil Goku SS1 Pure Heart To Good SS2 goku Pure Heart To Good SS2 Veget Was Under The Majin Spell Making Him Pure evil So Hejust Needs Tobe Pureley Evil For Him To Accend To SS3 NO MORE ARGUMENTS PLZ, Allso cant wait battle of the gods two SSG Vegeta Is Blue. Training in the otherworld just allowed Goku to reach SSJ3 quicker because his body there didn't get as stressed from all the training. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. 2:16. It is some sort of supernatural quality that Goku and Gotenks shared in being either dead or fused (a connection underlined by the commonality that it cost both SSJ3s time to sustain the form). When Vegeta went ssj1 he said he was pure evil, so he did need a pure heart to transform. Due to that limitation, I believe that Vegeta could reach Super Saiyan 3, albeit with a minimal chance of sucess of doing it... Vegeta - San Talk Contrib 18:42, April 6, 2010 (UTC), @SSJ4Lewich. However, Vegeta wasn't a Honour, instead he is a Pride Gene. Vegeta and Goku are very similiar, they both strive to make themselves better warriors. i think its very possible for vegeta to accent into ssj3, babidi merely amplified the evil in him and thus for. Potara can fuse tow any levels of power and the Dance can only fuse even powers. Asadora! In Dragon Ball: Raging Blast, Broly and Vegeta for the first time get their own Super Saiyan 3 forms (since Vegeta and Broly never achieved this form in the series). Okay, so we've seen two beings ever achieve Super Saiyan 3, correct? Of course they can.. Vegeta is my second favorite character, but I just don't think he ccan transform. I doubt he could've done it completely on his own. So basically, the only thing that Vegeta needs to transform into SSJ3 is a good amount of ki to perform and control the transformation, just look at Gotenks. Super Saiyan 3 (超 サイヤ人 三, Chō Saiya-jin San) is the strongest of all Super Saiyan forms in the manga and Dragon Ball Z anime. When Goku fought Freeza and turned SS1 for the first time his power level was only around 15,000,000 (I think). upheaval (SSJ, SSJ2 and maybe SSJ4 on Goku's case) or an external motivator (like the blutz machine for Vegeta's SSJ4). SSJ2 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta are exactly even. SSJ3 is x1,500. he got his tail unlike with Vegetta. Vegeta is a smart fighter, maybe the smartest between all the Z-Fighters. Vegeta earned ssj2 during the seven years of peace after Cell. 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Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. He knew this would happen." In the game Dragon Ball Heroes Future Trunks, Future Gohan and Gogeta also get a Super Saiyan 3 form (They also never achieved this). had he faced dabura, then dat wud of been a great oppurtunity. —This unsigned comment was made by Ibman55 (talk • contribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time! First we have to look of what Vegeta needs to transform to SSJ3. However this is not enough to make Goku or Vegeta nervous or afraid of him so they could both probally beat him. Goku new exactly how strong Cell was when Cell was killed. Goku did all those transformations by him self too. 22:44, April 6, 2010 (UTC), Vegeta became SSJ2 by training,but he was a weak one.Magin powers exaggerated on his SSJ2 powers.Otherwise he was weaker than Cell in those 7 years--------Ucell, no he was not weaker than cell. Proof of Goku being better is aginst Kid Buu, SSJ2 Vegeta got destroyed while SSJ2 Goku was holding his own, although Kid Buu was likely just playing around, Goku still did better. And I honestly dont think Ki is a problem either. Now looking at SSJ3 from otherworld, Vegeta probably took note of the IMMENSE power drain (so much that it borrowed against Goku's time on Earth) on a dead body (much less a living one). Gotenks is similar to Goku's dead self in that fusions, like dead people, are much harder to kill. This added to Vegeta's motivation as to anger Goku, Vegeta killed all those people at the world tournament just to convince Goku to fight. He achieved it because he was dead in otherworld. I think vegeta could go to a super saiyan 3. If Vegeta was seen as a powerful being that had the potential to save the day, that could take away from Goku's image as the series hero. (2 years after Frieza + 3 years for arrival of Androids + 7 years after Cell = 12 years) During that 12 years Goku fought ALOT and trained even more. SSJ5 if it exists is x10,000. So yeah he can do it. All these people saying Vegeta doesnt care about being stronger then Goku are crazy. Actually Gohan wasnt Mystic when he faced Broly as an adult.If he was Mystic he wouldnt need his ssj1 an ssj2K1lp1k0nna 09:50, June 14, 2012 (UTC)K1lp1k0nna. - Vegeta. It consumes way to much power be practical in fighting(it would only be useful in a split-second, life-or-death situation). Sam Stone is a 10th level pop culture guru living just outside of Washington, DC who knows an unreasonable amount about The Beatles. Vegeta has gone Super Saiyan 3 in the video games and the Dragon Ball Heroes web series, but not once has he ever made use of this form in canon. but vegeta doesnt need to be evil to accend.he just has to have a good heart. Evidenced by Gohan getting his but handed to him by Cell then ascending to SS2 and beating Cell like it was nothing. Like most Saiyans, he possesses defined eyes with a near-consistently stern look to them and his hair is a shade of black. When Baby took control over Vegeta their power levels got combined in a way so Baby Vegeta is as strong as SSJ, Super Baby SSJ2, Super Baby 2 SSJ3 so Vegeta has actually reached the power of Super Saiyan 3 just like when Ginyu took over Goku's body Baby didnt know how to properly use Vegeta's powers he just transform into i guess you could call it Super Tuffle. It is possible to make your base form or SSJ lower than 3 to be stronger than SSJ3 or 4 according to Akira Toriyama. The person at the top of this section is wrong. His hair is black (or dark brown, depending on the media) spiky and it firmly stands upwards and has a prominent widow's peak. Normally more powerful than SS2. 6 years ago | 206 views. I may not be a huge Vegeta fan, but I believe it's possible, or maybe he just didn't WANT to. Though this cut into the time they had (either on Earth or to stay fused), they both had something that Vegeta did not. He understood that it was extremely powerful, yet it had serious drawbacks. We all know that new SSJ forms are difficult to transform/control at first, but after some training it turns easier. 14:28, April 6, 2010 (UTC), Actually, TheDarkPrinceReturns! he did in a movie but never agin, Not the same person! 2. And even with that, Vegeta still needs a incredibly ki to control the transformation, his body would explode if Vegeta wasnt stronger enough to take the SSJ4 power, which he uses as its full potential, he would never transform into the golden great ape as well if he didnt have such ki. Vegito is obviouly stronger due to the time between the two Sagas and because of the fact it's Goku and Vegeta fused. i dont think so vegeta fought to kill but goku fought to push his own limits so i dont think vegeta would be able to turn ssj3. But maybe a few days of training, since is probably the most difficult transformation to control and mantain. Find GIFs with the latest and newest hashtags! Pierre Lea. they had simply reffered to him as cell'. In other words, it's a full-powered Saiyan in its maximum potential, that's why it was easier for Goku to achieve and maintain Super Saiyan 3 while in Other World. If the question is "Which is more reliable in battle?" The episode starts with Goku grabbing his chest. Comparing SSJ2 Goku when he fought Majiin Vegeta to SSJ3 Goku if he decided to use that form in the fight is a much more valid comparision. And he didn't ask how to turn into it, because he has his pride, and I don't think it would work. By the way I hate when people try to say how smart vegeta is because the only time he is smarter is when yet first meet. :D but a guy can only dream!! Goku is stronger he just supresses himself when doing the Fusion Dance. Gotenks Becomes Super Saiyan 3 For The First Time. The rest of the series is vegeta trying to kill everyone by himself even though everyone says don't try it. Vegeta goes Super Saiyan for the first time.mp4. Vegeta can turn into super saiyan 3 but why when he can turn into super saiyan 4........Bulma machine isnt the reason he changed.. all the machine did was compensate for his lack of a tail. The producers just forgot to put him? even the author explains it on one of his blogs. wot Veget-San said is true, vegeta did in fact reach ss2 through harsh training & babidi just unleashed vegeta's evil potential. Browse more videos. Ki. after the fight wen vegeta yells at gohan for not finishing dabura off, gohan himself states dat if vegeta fought dabura, then vegeta wud of beaten him. SSJ is x50. Goku flie… Still weaker than Goku, but much closer. Only Goku and Gotenks (fusion between Goten and Trunks) mastered it at that time. When in the otherworld Goku had almost limitless energy due to not having the strain of a living body. DBZ---Gotenks-turns-Super-Saiyan-3-for-the-First-Time-HD. in the kid buu saga vegeta realised dat the reason goku surpasses him everytime is cuz he does not fight for power, but rather test himself to higher limits. vegeta was even more poverfull. Even … Fusion: There are 2 types of fusion Potara and Fusion dance. r u serious, dats just like saying a person needing a gun in order to kill a bug, wen they can just squash it, lol. 22:32, April 6, 2010 (UTC), pui pui? No one has ever seemed to have a problem staying in SS2 form, so why not stick with that and train to become stronger than a SS3 without the disadvantages? Pride Gene's can only go SSJ, ASSJ, USSJ, SSJ2, and SSJ4. Like others have said, Goku went SSJ2 and 3 while he was dead, in reality, it should've have taken him much longer. First, we have to understand what SSJ3 transformation needs. he was confident of defeating majin buu when he cudnt in his ss2 form. [not when he was in his "Majin form"]. Cause Vegeta should've went SS3. "You Can't", "You need more training" or "Ok I'll show you first turn Super Saiyan and go beyond that to Super Saiyan 2 and if you go beyon this you'll become Super Saiyan 3" could this be the only thing that could help vegeta. Browse more videos. Sous cette forme, le Saiyan utilise toute l'énergie qu'il possède. Super revealed Saiyans as being able to harness godly energy through a ritual to transform into Super Saiyan Gods. 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Huge Fan so Please respond Prince Zarbon=), if you think about, goku showed goten and trunks how to do it and. goku on the other hand trained in other world to reach his ss2 & 3 form which was VERY easier as otherworld has more of an advantage in training than earth. He very rarely reaches the same strength as Goku at the same time Goku achieves it, and since Goku had JUST reached Super Saiyan 3 at the end of Z, I give Vegeta a couple months, a year at most, before he achieves it. His 50% chance for stuns is the reason why I left him on main rotation. 1 Depicts a Vibrant Past... and an Already-Dated Future? My theory is that the issue is with actually unlocking the SSJ3 transformation. Goku acheived it because he was dead and DID have his body. So yeah, clear? TL;DR, Goku and Gotenks are the only other SSJ3s shown, and they both achieved it through supernatural means (being dead or being fused). Vegeta isn't even with Goku...Majin Vegeta is stronger than him barely and Goku is a good deal more powerful than Vegeta in his normal state. Super Saiyan, a saiyan's powers are magnified in this form, by exactly how much is never specified(an important bit of info to note). Frieza Saga Goku was when he just went SSJ1 for the first time, and Vegito happened during the Buu Saga, 12 years after Frieza Saga! i think vegeta can go ss3 if he trained hard enough. You can follow him on Twitter @samstoneshow and ask him about Nintendo, pop punk, and Star Trek. Meanwhile, Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue evidently do not. Remember after the seven years of peace after Cell died? It is the third form of Super Saiyan, the successor to the first and second transformations (the branch stages are not separate transformations, but rather extensions). While Goku was able to achieve this in a ritual with Vegeta, Gohan, Trunks, Goten, and Pan, it was revealed that Vegeta had also achieved Super Saiyan God, … ", the short answer is no. that brougt his strength up. Playing next. Then again maybe he needs different kinds of training. Is the battle intended to be quick? One can say the same with vegeta. Mystic is anything but about x100,000. Ultimately this is all a debate and just a matter of opinion, (im a diff guy)I agree, Vegita could, but we all seem to be forgeting something. another evidence of this is goku stating in his fight with vegeta, "wow, u have really outdone yorself in the past 7 years" which goes to show dat vegeta did in fact reach the form himself and allowed babidi to control him in order to unleash his evil potential.TheDarkPrinceReturns! Honour Gene's can go SSJ3. also earlier on, wen vegeta and goku both sense dabura's power, they realise it is the same as cells power level and even after knowing dis, they were both not scared to fight him, meaning dat vegeta had obviously grown way stronger than cell over the yrs. I have see some people saying that he doesnt transform into SSJ2 by normal means (using the argument that he only achieve SSJ2 by the help of Babidi), well, he kinda does: "It is sometimes debated when he first achieved this form. All of the Super Saiyan forms have drawbacks, if you look close enough. Well that's just wrong, it would be a lot harder to achieve in the real world yes but all it really means is that Vegeta would have to train a lot harder harder than he ever has before. This is why I believe Goku used his SSJ form to battle Bills after SSJG form's time ran out. Secondly I want to say vegeta might have been able to if he the training goku had but he didn't. Vegeta is yes indeed strong but I want to disagree with all of ya'll. (when he joined the z-fighters, he lost his hatred and drive to kill Goku, thus making him impure). TheDarkPrinceReturns! In fact, during their rematch, while Goku was back on Earth, he was visibly upset that Goku had kept the form a secret from him. Just because he didnt never transform into it, doesnt mean that he cant. I think because of his obession with becoming more powerful than Goku would have caused him to have reached super saiyan 3 shortly after Goku did. So what’s wrong with Vegeta! It's possible he has the energy to go SSJ3 but not the training. Great Ape/SSJ3 completely disturb this balance. There is one thing a saiyan keeps, HIS PRIIIIIDDDDDEEEEEE!!!!!!!! BUT, if even after that people is still skeptical, lets analize after evil Shenrons's saga. They are Goku and Gotenks. 19:53, April 7, 2010 (UTC), They stated that Dabura was equal to Perfect Cell,not Super Perfect Cell.-------------------Ucell, if i may recall, they never said perfect cell nether did they say super perfect cell. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Big Bang Mission!!! 11:50, April 8, 2010 (UTC), theres a cutscene in a game where he wants to be better than goku and that he wants to show his true power and he goes ssj3 and flies off but i dont know what game it wasbrndn rgt 04:42, May 20, 2010 (UTC). SSJ4 is x5,000. Goku uses this form to fight Mahin Buu, later stating that he could have beaten MB but did not because he wanted the others to do it because he would not always be around to protect the Earth. Goku had a really rough time in the SSJ3 form when he was alive again because he wasn't use to it in that aspect and it drained his power quicker and also put stress on his life force as well which he never had to compensate for in the otherworld since he was dead so he had no life force to worry about. Vegeta could acheive it possibly if he was dead and had his body. Après, il régressera à son stade initial, et sera parcouru par une puissante fatigue. (P.S. While GT is no longer canon to the main franchise, Vegeta would similarly skip Super Saiyan 3 in the actually canon Dragon Ball Super. As for the matter at hand, I believe that by the end of Dragon Ball Z that Vegeta had a basic powerlevel higher than Goku's, but Goku always had the advantage of turning into Super Saiyan 3; it has been mentioned by several opinions here that in order to reach Super Saiyan 3, one needs motivation. Goku, during all his traning is light years ahead of Vegeta because he was not able to train when he died, and also that he didn't have the training conditions like Goku did. Of course Buu-Saga-Base-Form Goku would beat Frieza-Saga-SSJ1 Goku, that's just plain obvious. ", "Both the Daizenshuu and the new Super Exciting Guide character profiles state that Vegeta was awakened to his Super Saiyan 2 form by means of extensive training in between the Cell and Buu arcs, which assures that Vegeta did indeed achieve this transformation through training." What's the point of achieving it of training to achieve it if you simply don't want to achieve it? Vegeta and Gohan had no reason to train and then when GT came up they just let Goku fight every battle. It is much said and assumed among fans that Vegeta is one of Toriyama's lesser favourite characters, which explains why Vegeta is commonly dealt the dud hand. Gotenks Becomes Super Saiyan 3 For The First Time. Goku explained that maintaining Super Saiyan 3 in a normal, living body burns through energy dangerously fast and creates a tremendous amount of strain. But if all of this is somehow untrue, then I can see why he wouldn't want to use ssj3. While GT is no longer canon to the main franchise, Vegeta would similarly skip Super Saiyan 3 in the actually canon Dragon Ball Super. His pure-hearted intentions are what drive him to push his limits and the limits of his Super Saiyan powers to new levels. He didnt have to for Ssj1 and 2. I dont think that is able to be done unless your fused because if you train in super sayian 2 for along time you can not be stronger than you ss3 form because that form is what i believe 20times stronger than your last form and the more you train in your lower levels of SS the higher power you will have in your other forms, The reason Vegito was more powerful than a Ssj2 two was because it was two fighters fused together even as Majin Vegeta .. he couldn't beat Buu in his fat form. Easily recognized by the user’s lack of eyebrows and incredibly long hair, the Super Saiyan 3 transformation made its anime debut in Dragon Ball Z’s Buu Saga, when Goku used it to fight Majin Buu. and "Can a SS2 be stronger than an SS3? well actily vegeta did turn super saiyan 3 but could never do it agin in one of the movies. he reached ssj3 because of combined powers, if a force was so great in DBZ, i think fusion with goku would have been a thought. Can a Saiyan as SSJ2 be stronger than a SSJ3? Go to Qaaman's page to find out more on Youtube!!! It produces a ton of strain and is, to put it simply, an unbalanced form. Mystic: Gohan apparently skips everything after SS2 and reaches a level called "Mystic", although that may have just been an unofficial term, it was still the peak of his power and was not enough to defeat Buu. "Ultimate" Gohan is stronger than both Goku SSJ3 and Gotenks SSJ3, Vegito and Gogeta as well, so the SSJ3 transformation would be no problem to them. But when he started to care about others again, that slowed down his progress again. Ans unfortunately, this was a series that was heavily driven by fan opinion. When Goku reached ASSJ/USSJ1 and then USSJ/USSJ2 he realised that bulking up and forcing his power to increase isn't the best way to increase power level. then, well it depends. The Dragon Team now realize that the heart virus that Future Trunks warned him about is attacking him. SSJ2 would probably be better, although you run the risk of not being strong enough to win. SSJ2 is x500. Forget Goku, Vegeta's the best. When Babidi made him again pure evil, he was kind of a match for Goku. Also this is just a theory but Vegeta probally picked up on how Goku fights harder when hes angry or hes fighting a villain that only he can beat aka Freiza/Saiyan saga Vegeta/etc. When he went ssj4, he needed Bulma's machine to do it(not even Baby could do it himself), and after the form wore off; Goku asked why he didn't transform again, and he shouted shutup!, implying that he could transform (even after attaining the form) without the Blutz Wave Generator. Okay for one thing i want to piont this out even if he asked goku how to go ssj3 its not like he can just do it he needs to train and have something snap that power out of him cause if you just ask and turn into right after that then it would be to easy. Also I just believe the Vegeta was not able to learn it in the first place. Goku had already achieved and most likely practiced with SSJ3 before he fought Kid Buu, and yet the form was still a strain. did u by any chance miss the saga?TheDarkPrinceReturns! Super Saiyan 2, This is normally a LOT more powerful than a Super Saiyan 1. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. :3, 16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC) can i be a super saiyan. To answer the questions "Can a SS1 be stronger than an SS2?" It is the most simple of all the 4. Same with USSJ. Nor did we even learn exactly how that form is unlocked in the Battle of Gods. The reasons to why he didnt transform are various, so I dont need to quote them here; but this includes the fact that he didnt need it, that producers forgot or never though about it, or even if in the cirscunstances the SSJ2 form was always a better choice. Back to the original topic of this thread, I also do not think it was possible for Vegeta to go SSJ3, mainly because of the aformentioned reason that Goku only learned it in Otherworld where he didn't have the restraints of a physical body. (with the exception of Broly Ssj5vegeta 00:03, February 3, 2010 (UTC). Playing next. But we are forgetting a factor here. (SuperSaiyan4BurstMode 14:30, October 26, 2009 (UTC)). Vegeta goes Super Saiyan for the first time.mp4. Marvinhrlm20. Le stade de Super Saiyan 3est énergivore, et l'utilisateur ne peut rester sous cette forme que pendant une courte durée. there was no circumstance before this time dat wud cause vegeta to use dis form as the show skipped 7 years on after cell games. However, their reasons are different. Follow. He always had some sort of help or drive to do so. Gotenks was a fused being who achieved SSJ3. Vegeta would never be seen attaining Super Saiyan 3 in subsequent Dragon Ball series, instead finding ways to skip Super Saiyan 3 entirely. Dragon Ball GT saw Bulma develop a device that allowed Vegeta to transform into a Golden Great Ape, his Super Saiyan powers augmented by the primal rage of the Oozaru. If he was, then there wouldn't be any super SAYIAN transformations coming out of him.... Vegeta never went SSJ3 because when he died the second time he didnt have a body train in, thats why. Gotenks also uses SS3 to fight an evoilved form of Buu and manages to fight him to pretty much a standstill. of matching gokus ssj3.hes always been able to match him before why not now? Every time Goku unlocks a new form, granting himself a significant power boost, a jealous Vegeta trains furiously to close the gap in strength between them - so it has been since the Saiyan's introduction over 30 years ago. Remember who got Super Saiyan 1 first. Vegeta has always been promoted as being a genius fighter, including by Beerus himself. But I do think that Vegeta HAS need help for some of his forms, whereas Goku did not. 09:56, August 25, 2012 (UTC). Here are some real reliable facts. He probably attained it, then practiced it like crazy to be able to use it as a human ( "sorry to keep you waiting...I haven't had much occasion to practice this one..." ) lol. Vegeta never needed to go SS3. He was smart, smarter than goku at first but then got too arrogant. Unlike any other SSJ transformation, is basically raw power, they dont need an emotional kick or blutz rays, just pure and simple, power/ki. Actually, Super Saiyan 3 is different from the other Super Saiyan transformations due to the fact that the only thing needed is to use one's full energy, ki, power and potential to reach it. vegeta apesar de no anime não usar a transformação, veceu todas as batalhas disputas entre ele e goku, majin vegeta ssj2 é a nivel de goku ssj3, vegeta ssj3 humilharia goku ssj3. TheDarkPrinceReturns! the only reason why Vegeta reached ss4 is because the writer made a very predictable ending.Thought Both saiyans have an urge to fight, Goku puts his purposes to protecting the universe, Vegeta on the other hand .. he has no purpose anymore since he has settled down on Earth. He then falls to the ground. or maybe he just need to train in other world like goku did. Potara is add the two powers and then x14,000. vegeta did not even break a sweat against him, so going super saiyan wud of been a total waste. 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